So many gun choices, so little time. Make sure you think logically about your gun purchases.

Welcome back Survivors,

We all realize that we need weapons for the ZPoc. Even the most hardcore melee expert among us must recognize that a distance fight with overwhelming numbers is a better option than muscle fatigue before death. Therefore we use the most advanced tool allotted to us: the firearm. No history lesson, no uppity garbage. Straight to business.

We need to be very prudent with our selections. Unless you have money to literally burn then you’re like me. So cost is an object. We’re going to look at economical and versatile weapons that will fit our needs.

Ruger 10/22
Up first is the Ruger 10/22. This rifle is affordable and has almost as many aftermarket parts as the 90’s Honda Civics! If you don’t like the standard rifle configuration you can buy an Archangel conversion kit (complete with bayonet). A .22 caliber rifle is so versatile it would take days to list all its attributes, but for us it means we have a ton of lightweight ammo for a weapon that is lightweight and reliable. The most attractive aspect of this rifle is its price. You can pick up a Ruger 10/22 for around $200.

The Ruger 10/22 carbine. Quite possibly one of the greatest guns ever built.

 

 

 

A good way for you to contribute to ZAI is give us a good range report on it, its weight, its capacity to weight ratio, and its accuracy! You don’t have to be a prize winner to contribute. Just be honest!

The Conversion kit
Many of us have AR style rifles. Quick note: AR does not stand for Assault Rifle. It stands for Armalite Rifle. Assault rifles fire multiple bullets with a single squeeze of the trigger. Don’t be drawn into that tired argument.

The .22 conversion for the AR rifle is a drop-in bolt and a magazine designed for the .22 long rifle shells. I recommend the CMMG conversion kit for price, but I will not recommend their magazines. Buy Blackdog magazines for your conversion.

This lightweight kit adds an additional tool to your arsenal. The ability to swap over to the .22 on the fly will give you more capabilities and an abundance of ammo for little weight. It also utilizes your primary weapon so there is no adjustment to reloading, sights, or fundamental manipulations. Excellent for training on a budget as well. I highly recommend it!

The Kel Tec Sub 2000 series
Pistol carbines are a great idea. Accuracy and precision chamber for your secondary weapon. They also make them in a lot of popular magazine patterns and calibers. Being able to have the same ammo for both your pistol and your carbine is outstanding for close in urban work. It also saves on weight because you use the same magazines as your pistol.

One consideration for a Zpoc gun is one that uses the same caliber and magazines as your sidearm.

The rifle conveniently folds for transpiration and storage, which is critical if you need to move quickly. Ideally, weapons of this nature show their versatility simply by being themselves. They give the user a lot of options for an excellent price.

These are just a few things for you to consider when buying your weapons. More soon.

I’m Zom TAC and this is something for you to consider.
Stay alert, stay alive.

 

Ed. Note; A while back we posted an article about buying a gun. Zom TAC has taken this a bit further and added some other considerations. Tell us what you think in the comments! -Eric ZAI.

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Comments
  1. Joee velvet says:

    Depending on your 10/22 Layout weight to capacity is hard to determine. I have been running a 10/22 sporting 1″ bull barrel/ Houge Stock/ 4-16x 40mm Scope/ Standard 10rd mags. at that point its more about precision shooting so you aren’t getting alot of trigger time for the weight. Still great for long range accurate shots, but at that point you may as well of been using a Remington 770 especially for the price.

    • Zom Tac says:

      Joee,

      I agree, it’s a situationally dependent issue. A 90 pound bench rest rifle would be an amazing sniper rifle if it wasn’t so impractical to move. It’s all in your application.

      My philosophy is to fit the equipment to the mission, and make everything do two or three jobs when possible. This saves money, time and effort for me.

      One of the reasons I chose the AR platform was for modularity. I can go from 5.56mm to .50 Beowulf in less than a minute, without purchasing new mags, or equipment to haul them.

      You bring up good points, thank you!

  2. Matt says:

    My 10/22 is the toughest rifle I have ever used and it has the scars to prove it. Still shoots straight too. I would take it anywhere. Just add a scope and make sure you have factory mags or mags that have been well tested. I’m not comfortable using a conversion kit for an AR. I don’t have a good reason for that but somthing my gut tells me, especialy if my life depended on it. For a budget though it might be the ticket if you prefer the AR platform(I do). Now that Kel Tec is very interesting. Never shot one. Never even held one. It looks cool and the way it folds up is really cool. You could easily hide it in a carry bag. The only thing that would make it better is if when it was folded up it could still shoot. Like if the stock folded over. Oh well, I still want one. I dont know how that rifle fits into a tight budget. I’m only commenting on what you posted or I would be writing foreever and I type slow.

  3. Matt,

    The Kel-Tec Sub2000 series can be bought new for under $375 and you have your choice of Glock or Beretta magazines and .40 S&W or 9mm calibers.

    Having never fired, or really even held one, I personally can’t speak to their quality or operation, but I must say they have intrigued me from the first time I saw one. My only concern is the location and action of the charging handle. It is in the tubular stock, and I believe it cycles with each round, which means there is a possibility of that little knob to get caught on a shirt of a strap and cause function issues.

    I might take a closer look at these for the vehicle bags. The price is right, and they fold in half. Plus, in 9mm if it takes the actual 15 round 92/M9 magazines, I have an abundance of those.

    Eric
    ZAI

  4. tuco says:

    I’ve not looked into the Kel-Tec much for two reasons. The first and foremost is that it is not offered in .45acp which is my pistol caliber of choice. The second is the issue stated above with the charging handle.

    The use of Glock magazines is a definite plus from the standpoint of capacity. There is no shortage of 33rd Glock 9mm magazines.

    For whatever reason Kel-Tec’s stuff doesn’t show up often in gun stores or at gun shows in my area, so I have never even held one. Kel-Tec’s got some cool stuff out/coming out and is really throwing off their earlier reputation as a maker of cheap, small-caliber pistols.

    • Zom Tac says:

      Tuco,

      Kel Tec’s earlier reputation was due to a buy out from a very poorly designed product line. After Kel Tec purchased the company you see the innovative and low cost weapons of today. Everyone’s favorite, the KSG, is a prime example of these new designs. The RFB uses components of the genius Maxim machine gun design in it extraction and loading characteristics. To put it another way… I carry a P-11 9mm everyday. If you’re at all hesitant to purchase one please let me know. Or visit KTOG and lurk for awhile! Great people over there!

      • Zom Tac says:

        Tuco,

        I took it to Kel Tec and here is what they said:
        “We tried a .40 cal pistol about 12+ years ago, but it was discontinued because most people couldn’t handle the recoil of it and kept sending it in for service for stovepipes. (limp-wristing). Somehow I don’t think we’ll be trying that or anything larger anytime soon, but I’ll pass your request on to the R&D team for consideration.
         
         
        Thanks,
        Ericka
         
        Kel-Tec CNC” We may as yet see one produced but as she said maybe not… Time will tell.

      • tuco says:

        I’m well aware of what Kel-Tec is doing now. The RFB has only one problem I’m aware of and that is the fact that it is priced like most bullpup rifles, i.e. out of my price range sadly. Oh so sadly. The KSG has had the gun world buzzing since Kel-Tec first released pictures of it, and rightfully so. It’s a design that has a lot of really great potential applications with the size, capacity, and ability to switch between two different types of ammo. But the Kel-Tec product that has caught my eye is their PMR/RMR design. This looks like the poor man’s answer to the FiveseveN/P90 pairing. I know that there are people who will try to throw rocks at my head for saying this, but I don’t see a lot of difference ballistically between the 5.7mm and .22WMR.

        As I see it right now, Kel-Tec’s only problem from a PR standpoint is that they have developed a reputation for a very slow roll out of their products. I think this is mostly due to the fact that most people in the gun community are used to dealing with larger companies which have more money and larger production staff/facilities. Kel-Tec is still, realtively speaking, a small gun manufacturer. I think when their demand and supply hit an equilibrium we’ll see that perception disappear.

  5. Matt says:

    I just noticed the charging handle at the bottom. I really need to hold one to really have a good opinion on it. The concept is cool though. Everything is a trade-off so I’m not expecting the perfect weapon. The question is does it work for what you are purchasing it for. Since we are talking about budget guns I think this still counts. Add some sort of scope and you are ready to go. I never took notice of Kel Tec before this but if they keep making stuff like this for a reasonable price I will have to take a 2nd look.

    • Zom Tac says:

      Matt,

      I would encourage you to do so. You mentioned that you are an AR platform user. The PLR line is very similar to Sub 2000 Line, both fold in half. The PLR however can still be fired accurately and comfortably while folded. You wont even have to change magazine types either, they accept all or most AR mags. I may sound like a shill for Kel Tec, but the Glock guys and gals are just as proud of their “ugly” gun for all the same reasons. I’ve done a lot of research and I feel confident in recommending them for their price.

      To address your additional concern of the CMMG conversion. They used a fairly good idea in their system. It’s a simple bolt and magazine swap. The bolt has an artificial 5.56mm head which is loaded into the chamber. Once seated the only thing that protrudes is the bullet itself. No worries about fouling either. The bolt does not reciprocate in the same fashion as does the standard bolt. An internal extractor and buffer pull the spent cases from the “fake” casing. No steel on steel friction. I hope this alleviates some fears or misunderstandings. If not feel free to contact me for clarification.

      If you have an AR I highly recommend looking into this conversion!

      • Alan Kuhn says:

        To add one point when it comes to the .22 Kits for the AR, Do spend the extra couple of bucks to buy the dedicated Charging Handle from CMMG to go with your Kit. The standard one for the AR has a tendency to catch empty cases and jam the whole works up. One of the advantages to having a .22 setup with the AR is the ability to use the same rifle to train with inexpensively, thereby building your muscle memory by running drills MUCH less expensively (525 rounds of .22lr cost less than 60 rounds of .223/5.56). One caution though..DO NOT DRY FIRE your Kit. If you are not using the Stainless kit, you WILL damage the chamber insert, which will cause major extraction issues. Brownells sells orange plastic Dummy rounds, Buy them, use them (Oh and do not dry-fire A-Zoom .22 Snap Caps..that will break your firing Pin). For any firearms you own, Learn how they work, Learn how they are assembled, and dissasembled, there was a time when the Owners manual gave instructions on how to take down a firearm almost to the bare frame, now they actively discourage that. There is a Book out thee for pretty much every firearm made, buy it, learn it, KNOW IT. While you may not need to be able to turn a new part from bar stock, you MAY need to be able to replace a pin, or spring one day, with no Gunsmith for 500 miles. if you own an AR, you SHOULD have a box with spares. (Lowes sells yellow plastic Dewalt boxes with dividers that clamshell open, they are PERFECT for this, I have one for each type of firearm in the safe with the “Everyday” spares). At a Minimum for EACH AR you need to have at a minimum (and remember one is none, two is one) 2@ of the following: Firing pin, Trigger/Hammer pins, Trigger/hammer springs, Front and rear takedown pins, springs, and detents, Carrier gas key and cap screws, carrier key, Bolt, extractor assembly, ejector, Bolt Release, Pin, Spring and plug, and 4 (yes, FOUR) Spare disconnectors, and at least one full Fire Control set. One other worthwhile investment is a basic tool kit Dedicated for your firearms..not to beat a dead horse (Nor do i work for them in any capacity) Brownells sells a Basic gunsmithing tool kit for around $200.00 that has just about everything you would need to maintain your firearms, with room for some other Specialty tools if you need them. While it’s a little pricey, Buy once, Cry once.

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